Ben McKenzie (The O.C., Gotham) joins Tim and JVL to talk his new book, “Easy Money: Cryptocurrency, Casino Capitalism, and the Golden Age of Fraud.” They discuss his investigation into cryptocurrency during the COVID-19 pandemic, pushback from supporters of crypto, finding a fulfilling mission later in life, and his lifelong vendetta with Chad Michael Murray! You can purchase Ben’s book here: https:// The Next Level is produced by The Bulwark. Go to TheBulwark.com for a daily dose of sane political analysis and insights via newsletters, articles, podcasts and more. Sign up for our free newsletters at TheBulwark.com. The Next Level is also available as a podcast on all major platforms. Find it at https://
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